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Nobody Told Me There'd Be Days Like These: Stress, Resilience, and Ethical Decision-Making in the Practice of Law

Total Credits: 2 including 2 Maine - General

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Michael Kahn, M.ED. Counseling, J.D. |  Chris Osborn, Esq. |  ReelTime CLE |  David Ferrante, Esq. |  Laura Kim, Esq. |  Michael Panagiotis, Esq. |  Cindy Shapiro, Esq.
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Most ethical miscues, professional responsibility breaches, and compliance violations don't arise out of arcane, ambiguous, provisions of the applicable rules or codes of conduct, but, in fact, for clear breaches of obvious, well-defined obligations. It’s not rocket science—in fact, anyone who has sat in on a basic professional responsibility class or compliance training would know such conduct is ethically problematic. And yet it happens. A lot. Even to our own friends and colleagues.

This engaging, highly interactive program provides a fresh and practical perspective on the fundamental question, “Why do ‘good’ people ‘go bad’?” Based on an original short film we wrote and co-produced, this workshop--available live or on-demand--provides a lively way to explore the intersection of ethical decision-making and the manifold sources of stress encountered by professionals and employees in their everyday lives.


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Michael Kahn, M.ED. Counseling, J.D.'s Profile

Michael Kahn, M.ED. Counseling, J.D. Related seminars and products:

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Michael Kahn is a "recovering lawyer," having practiced for 6 years with the New Jersey Attorney General's office. He is a licensed Professional Counselor in the State of Oregon, and his psychotherapy practice has focused on helping clients deal with anxiety, depression, grief/loss, career satisfaction, and men's issues. He co-facilitates grief groups for lawyers in Oregon and Vancouver, BC. Michael presents training seminars and workshops on ethics, grief, wellness, diversity and inclusion and other topics throughout the U.S. and abroad, including for the U.S. military in Germany and Japan. He also is a professional coach and provides assistance with career issues, stress management, retirement, and coping with change.

Chris Osborn, Esq.'s Profile

Chris Osborn, Esq. Related seminars and products:

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In addition to his ongoing work with ReelTime CLE, Chris Osborn is a former law professor, and the founding principal of Osborn Conflict Resolution, which provides Superior Court mediations, as well as collaborative law approaches for family law, construction, business, and will and probate disputes throughout North Carolina. Chris is trained as a collaborative lawyer, and is a member of the North Carolina Civil Collaborative Lawyers Association. He has been certified by the N.C. Dispute Resolution Commission as a Superior Court mediator since 2009, and has assisted the vast majority of his legal clients over the years to reach amicable resolutions in a wide variety of litigation matters, including business breakups, construction and employment law disputes, and will caveats. His full professional bio can be found here.

ReelTime CLE's Profile

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This program was produced by ReelTime CLE.
ReelTime Creative Learning Experiences was formed in 2007 in response to a fairly daunting challenge: developing and presenting seminars on ethical decision-making and mental health/substance abuse awareness for lawyers. As we soon learned, that's not only a pretty tough crowd to please, but some of the most daunting subject matter to address and make interesting. Needless to say, we had our work cut out for us.
We met that challenge by leveraging both our love of good movies and our unique backgrounds (Chris' experience as a practicing lawyer and former law school professor, and Michael's as a psychotherapist and former lawyer) to create a unique facilitated workshop format that would engage attendees and treat them as active participants in the learning process. Our basic hope was simply to provide an enjoyable learning experience, and perhaps by doing so to earn the right to challenge unhelpful modes of thinking, promote greater self-awareness about decisions and their consequences, and connect the participants to their colleagues as valuable resources for encouragement and support.
Over ten years later, we are humbled and amazed at how much fun we have had, how much we ourselves have continued to learn, and how appreciative folks have been about our workshops around the U.S., Canada, and even Australia. As it turns out, that "tough crowd" really likes coming to a workshop and being treated as if they have something to offer, instead of just being talked at. (Well, most of them do.)  And our approach to ethical decision-making and other dreaded topics appears to have resonated with folks because we flat out refuse to concede that any topic has to be mind-numbingly boring. 
Our programs are suitable for "tough crowds" and daunting topics in all kinds of industries and contexts because we address the universal human behavioral dynamics that are almost always in play--whether an organization is aiming for better regulatory compliance, or trying to improve its diversity and inclusion initiatives, or managing any other kind of change or employee behavior.

David Ferrante, Esq.'s Profile

David Ferrante, Esq. Related seminars and products:

David Ferrante is with Wesierski & Zurek. His areas of practice include legal malpractice, medical malpractice and real estate malpractice. Mr. Ferrante is a member of the Association of Southern California Defense Lawyers.

Laura Kim, Esq.'s Profile

Laura Kim, Esq. Related seminars and products:

Laura Kim is a partner at Musick Peeler in Los Angeles, CA. Ms. Kim's principal area of practice involves the litigation of tort, construction, consumer warranty and fraud cases, business disputes and the defense of professional liability actions. Ms. Kim is a member of the State Bar of California and State Bar of New York.

Michael Panagiotis, Esq. Related seminars and products:

Matthew Panagiotis is Assistant General Counsel at DaVita Kidney Care in El Segundo, California. His previous experience includes being with the Law Offices of Zomber & Panagiotis.

Cindy Shapiro, Esq.'s Profile

Cindy Shapiro, Esq. Related seminars and products:

Cindy Shapiro was with Reback, McAndrews and Kjar when the round table was filmed.



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